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Solenoids => 12 Volts => Topic started by: VOLV_LO on March 21, 2004, 01:27:09 AM



Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: VOLV_LO on March 21, 2004, 01:27:09 AM
:P

heres an image of them,

hook up info to come... :P  :P  :P  :ph34r:  :ph34r:  


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: VOLV_LO on March 23, 2004, 12:48:24 PM
I will add some pics later but here is the instructions in my words with out pics..


HOW SOLENOID BANKS WORK

Solenoids are one of those things you need to keep an eye on.  Ford Starter Solenoids are the most commonly used.  FORD SW-3 are the most reccommended for this application or VICTORY LAP 19-6250-6 (grey in color)

SOLENOIDS are Gateways that let power pass from your batteries to your PUMP MOTORS. Each one must CLOSE AND OPEN in sequence to work properly.  WHEN ALL ARE CLOSED AT THE SAME TIME, your pumps will run becasue the power can now pass from your batteries to your pump motors.  If one solenoid in a bank is stuck open when you hit the switch and close the other two the power CANNOT pass to your motors, therefor your pumps will not spin and you will hear a CLICK-CLICK sound.  THE CLICKING is the mechanical part of your other solenoids moving when you are hitting the switch.  When ONE SOLENOID in your bank is STUCK CLOSED your pump will run fine as the other two can stop the power from getting to your pumps.

ITS WHEN ALL THREE ARE STUCK CLOSED THAT you are running to your QUICK DISCONNECT to stop the pumps from spinning.



TESTING THEM WITH A CONTINUITY TESTER (OR LIGHT BULB)

1 - Disconnect the cable from your battery to your solenoid bank that is in question.
2 - Make sure your QUICK DISCONNECT GROUND is plugged in and your switches work this bank.
3 - Start at the first solenoid, probe on either side of a solenoid, have a friend hit the switch that activates this bank.  If the tester beeps or the light lights up only when the switch is held on, the solenoid is good.  if the beep stays on regardless on the switch the solenoid is stuck CLOSED, if the light wont light up nor the tester beep regardless of the switching, the SOLENOID IS STUCK OPEN. and is bad

Do this to each solenoid in the bank and REPLACE ALL BAD SOLENOIDS NOW!!!!

VISUAL AID TO FOLLOW.


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: VOLV_LO on March 23, 2004, 12:49:06 PM
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Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: LowriderUK on April 26, 2004, 08:49:33 AM
So is it necessary to have three solenoids per pumps, or is that just triple protection?

My two pump system only had one soleniod for each pump?

Hydro newbie, can ya tell?


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: Guest on April 26, 2004, 09:25:51 AM
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So is it necessary to have three solenoids per pumps, or is that just triple protection?

My two pump system only had one soleniod for each pump?

Hydro newbie, can ya tell?
How many batteries to each pump?


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: LowriderUK on April 26, 2004, 09:40:14 AM
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How many batteries to each pump?
Just two, connected for 24volts, supplying both pumps...

I guess multiple solenoids in a bank are for higher voltages, like 72/96v?


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: Hydros on April 26, 2004, 09:26:14 PM
On thing I always try to do is to post info that I have done and what works for me. I can't answer your question, because I run my solenoids different than what  other do. I run only four solenoids in parrell (spell check) and series with 6 batterys.

http://hydros.biz/forum/index.php?showtopic=47 (http://hydros.biz/forum/index.php?showtopic=47)

This info is not yet completed.

 


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: Hydros on April 26, 2004, 09:29:25 PM
Later when I run 8-10 batteries I may only use two solenoids. These will be a totally different type that no one else uses. If I find this type to be a problem I will run two banks of three or may go to three banks of two.  I favor the three banks of two for 8 or more batteries.


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: juicdmonte on December 06, 2005, 06:35:44 PM
did you ever test your 'alternative' solenoids at higher voltages?


Title: SOLENOIDS
Post by: Hydros on December 06, 2005, 07:10:14 PM
Yes!!!

It was a monster, the flash was too intense to look at.  The amps to the switch were so much I had to run a solenoid for it too.

see this thread
http://hydros.biz/forum/index.php?topic=205.0